Residents complain that ‘call to prayer’ is too loud

Tenants at the Holbrook Senior Plaza apartments say the Ideal Islamic Center across on the street from the apartment complex broadcasts its call to prayer too loud and too early in the morning.

 

 

  

By Charles Sercombe

          The debate over the Muslim call to prayer is reverberating once again.

          At last week’s city council meeting, several residents of the Hamtramck Senior Plaza apartments on Holbrook complained about the volume level of the call to prayer coming from the Ideal Islamic Center, located across from the apartment complex.

          Jeanette Powell said she’s not complaining as a way to “bash anyone’s religion.”

          She said the call or prayer was broadcast at 6 a.m. and found the volume “overbearing.”

          “Just turn it down a little bit.”

          Carol Marsh said not only was the call to prayer too loud, she insisted that the organizers of the center never said it would serve as a mosque.

          “We were lied to,” she said. “We were told it would never be turned into a mosque.”

          But Sakrul Islam of the center said no one ever said it would not be a mosque, saying an Islamic center “covers everything.”

          He warned Marsh that if she continued claiming she was lied to he would file a defamation lawsuit.

          He also denied accusations that the call to prayer was broadcast earlier than 6 a.m. Islam said he has since turned down the volume when the police department informed him of the complaints.

          Islam accused City Councilmember Robert Zwolak, who lives in the apartment complex, of whipping up complaints.

          “He’s against Muslims,” he said.

          The center on Holbrook was not the only mosque accused of broadcasting the call too loudly.

          Susan Dunn, who is a candidate for city council, said the new mosque on St. Aubin St., the Abu-Bakr Al-Siddique Islamic Center, also broadcasts the call loudly. Dunn lives on Hewitt St., which is a block away from the center.

          She said she asked neighbors who attend services at the center to tell organizers there to turn down the volume.

          Since then, she said, it’s been “turned down some.”

          The complaints launched a long discussion on the city’s noise ordinance and the ordinance regulating the call to prayer.

          According to Councilmember Cathie Gordon the city’s ordinance has no teeth.

          Police Chief Max Garbarino said the way he’s been dealing with the issue is to talk with mosque leaders and ask them to turn down the volume.

          The call to prayer issue first came up in 2004 when city officials were considering an ordinance regulating it. At that time, there was a heated debate over the issue.

          Eventually, the city council at the time OK’d the ordinance. But that decision was challenged after Zwolak, who was not a member of council at the time, led a successful petition drive to put the matter up to a ballot vote.

          Voters approved the ordinance by a 55 to 45 percent margin.

          The issue also attracted national and international attention. Periodically, residents complain about the volume of the call to prayer, mostly from the mosque located on Caniff near Jos. Campau.

67 Responses to Residents complain that ‘call to prayer’ is too loud

  1. Ryan the awesome

    August 3, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    Really? A call to prayer over loudspeakers? Every church should broadcast the lords prayer or the sermon on the mount in the middle of the night.

  2. Santosh

    August 18, 2016 at 9:47 am

    i m dealing with this noise pollution of this mosque everyday here, even the street dogs gets annoyed and starts barking at that noise

  3. john kulaya

    August 28, 2016 at 2:20 am

    how do you recall city council leaders. they are creating a state supported religion which is unconstitutional!

  4. Gloria Dean

    August 28, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    Sort of remind me of the Church bells I would hear every day.. Or a siren every Tuesday at 12 noon saying “this is a test.” …

  5. Gus

    August 31, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    Easy answer play the Rollins Band “LIAR!” on 10 on a 350 watt amp when they try that crap!

  6. Jeremy Laughery

    September 15, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    To the man named Sakrul Islam that said he would file a defamation lawsuit, you are a corrupt and demented individual if you think that your noise pollution can override justice of the peace. Your threats are laughable! Religion is a mind-game that creeps like you play with unsuspecting ignorant victims. Your God, as well as any other God, is not concerned with you or any other religious figure and followers of any religion. Islam is not a religion; it is control by subversion, subjugation and force. Our most dire concerns should not be with God; they should be the facts that are apparent right here on Earth. Morals, conscience and character are the three most important of all of these concerns, which are derived from the U.S. Constitution first. Learn these four things and you will do well in America. Fight the ignorance! Pass on the torch of liberty by passing on a copy of the State and Federal Constitutions!

  7. Ali Ibrahim

    September 16, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    why are you people making such a fuss about this the muslim people say nothing about the church bell you have on every church and our call to prayer is only 1 half minute long. so i suggest stop talking about call to prayer and you turn our call of prayer we turn yours off.

  8. Ali Ibrahim

    September 16, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    this guy named jeremy laughery your name is a laughing joke dont diss other peoples religion follow your own and well follow ares.

  9. Kathleen

    September 24, 2016 at 6:07 am

    There are Noise laws and if the mosques are violating the law, cite them! Religions get NO special treatment even Islam! If law enforcement and courts to NOT enforce the law they will take over. They already think their religion comes before ANYTHING! When our government favors this religion of extremists…it is violating the Constitution! No government religion. Start treating these people same as every other religion and tough if they don’t like it!

  10. Fritz Schulze

    October 10, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    The Great Pillars of Civilization
    . Gender and LGBTQ equality
    . Freedom of and from religion
    . Freedom of expression
    . Separation of church and state
    . Democracy
    . Rule of secular law

    Each of these is opposed by Islamist ideology.

  11. Jay Douglas

    October 17, 2016 at 7:21 am

    Above, Ali Ibrahim wrote –
    “this guy named jeremy laughery your name is a laughing joke
    dont diss other peoples religion
    follow your own
    and well follow ares.”

    Presumably that last phrase is –
    “.. we’ll follow ours.”

    Maybe it’s a call to American-English !

    Really, I am wondering how properly to pronounce “Hamtramck” ?

  12. ladoomal

    October 20, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    The irony of it all HAMtramck taken over by Muslims.
    Ham is pork and is considered taboo.

  13. Abbie

    October 24, 2016 at 10:04 am

    6am is a bit early for anything to be blared over a loud speaker, a little consideration for people who need sleep. Its a discordant wail, nothing melodic or pleasant so kindly turn it down so we all dont have to hear it

  14. Wow you ignorant fucks

    November 4, 2016 at 9:37 am

    Wow you people are the most miserable xenophobic pieces of shit I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading comments from. You know a discordant sound that many have to deal with on a hourly basis? Clock towers and church bells. Now when your grievance isn’t grounded I’m “yeah well now the brown people are doing it” maybe, just maybe, you might have some ground to stand on.

  15. Concerned American

    November 6, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    The fact is, the call to pray (Adan) five times a day, seven days a week by the so called Muslims center, which is not a mosque is disturbing the community of the non muslim citicizans who pay taxes and have historical roots in this city. Your Muslim center violates the ordinance that was granted to you by the city to blast call to prayer. Your religion is full of lies. No religion has the right to take over a city and it community.

    Church bells ringing on Sunday morning at a aceticable decibel is not comparable to the obnoxious call to pray five times a day seven days a week at a disturbing decibel.

    The U.S. Constitution is bases on Jedeo-Christian beliefs and NOT the subversive and subjudaging Islamic religion. I suggest that you and your family go back to the county that you came from to practice your oppressive religion in a county that will accept you.

    Islam is not wanted here in this county and your backward ideology.

  16. Naresh B

    November 23, 2016 at 9:43 am

    This is an issue that muslims create for non-muslims EVERYWHERE in the world. religion of peace my foot.

  17. Political Islam

    November 29, 2016 at 1:13 pm

    This is noise pollution not religious freedom. Islam is political power and religion. Their code says it is okay to lie (“We were told it would never be turned into a mosque”) if it advances the cause of Islam. They practice obfuscation (“an Islamic center “covers everything””.
    They want to subjugate our rules to theirs while using our rules against us (if she “continued claiming she was lied to he would file a defamation lawsuit”).
    They attempt free speech by claiming persecution(“He’s against Muslims”).
    They really want all people to be ruled by Muslim law. It starts with small concessions – prayer calls many times a day (and from a growing number of locations); accommodation for prayer in schools and at work – then as their strength grows they get more emboldened for larger demands and aim to supplant local law with Sharia law. This is not a religious issue it is a political infiltration. There is no end until there is total submission by all non-muslims to the ‘laws’ of Islam.

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